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« on: July 03, 2004, 10:24:19 PM »

It's my turn to ask the forum for some help.

I have a wonderful new story idea (aren't they all? Wink) which involves, in part, a woman receiving multiple tattoos over a period of time.  Having been too chickensh--um, busy, to get one of my own, I have a number of questions about the process.

   1- What are the actual steps involved?  (I'm assuming: sterilizing, drawing the outline, tattooing the outline, filling it in.  Have I missed anything important?  Is there anything about the process that particularly stood out in your mind?)

   2- How loud is the needle gun?

   3- What's a reasonable size tat, that can be finished in one hour?  Two?

   4- How long is a typical session with a newbie?  How long can a session be stretched to?

   5- What did it feel like for you, the first time?  Once you were used to it?  (I'm not looking for how painful it was; I want to know what the sensation itself felt like.)

   6- How does the pricing structure work?  (Does it vary by size, by number of colors, or by hour of work?  All three, or something else?  Can you give me an example?  Have you ever received a discount, promotion, or freebie--either for being new, or for being a regular?)

   7- How long does it take to heal?  What steps did you need to take?  How long before it was all right to expose it to sunlight?  To wear normal clothes over it again?  Before the artist could work on it some more?

   8- What kind of tattoo heals the most quickly?  Takes the longest to heal?

   9- If you did have to wear clothes over it, how did you protect the tat?  (I'm guessing at a large gauze pad and medical tape.  How close am I?)

  10- Based on your experience, what kind of tattoo would you recommend for a (female) beginner, and where?  How long would it take, and how much would it cost?

  11- What parts of the body are considered off-limits?  Are there areas that an artist would charge extra, because of the potential danger?

  12- Can you share some terminology, or slang, or a particular experience that you think would help the story?  Can you think of anything I forgot to ask?


A warm thank-you, in advance, for any help that you're able to provide.

--Mike
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2004, 11:03:31 PM »

It's my turn to ask the forum for some help.

I have a wonderful new story idea (aren't they all? Wink) which involves, in part, a woman receiving multiple tattoos over a period of time.  Having been too chickensh--um, busy, to get one of my own, I have a number of questions about the process.

   1- What are the actual steps involved?  (I'm assuming: sterilizing, drawing the outline, tattooing the outline, filling it in.  Have I missed anything important?  Is there anything about the process that particularly stood out in your mind?)

Drawing the outline or making a transfer of the design to stick on your leg. Like a press-on. A lot of times the artist puts on some music and there is usually some sort of chair that reclines. A good artist used fresh ink poured into individual containers that are discarded after use - he also wears gloves and if he leaves area puts on fresh gloves when he returns.

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2- How loud is the needle gun?

A semi-loud buzzing.

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   3- What's a reasonable size tat, that can be finished in one hour?  Two?

Depends on how many colors and how detailed. Hard to say.

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   4- How long is a typical session with a newbie?  How long can a session be stretched to?

Again, depends on details. Four hours would prob be pushing it.

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5- What did it feel like for you, the first time?  Once you were used to it?  (I'm not looking for how painful it was; I want to know what the sensation itself felt like.)

This really is a tough question because it is all relative. The discomfort has a lot to do with the person, the area, and the details. I read that redheads have a lower pain threshold and tend to feel it more.

For me it is a burning sensation. It does hurt but after a few minutes the endorphins kick in and it actually becomes pleasurable on some level. There are a lot of people that become addicted to it for that reason. Usually just as it starts hurting too much the artist has moved on.

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6- How does the pricing structure work?  (Does it vary by size, by number of colors, or by hour of work?  All three, or something else?  Can you give me an example?  Have you ever received a discount, promotion, or freebie--either for being new, or for being a regular?)

The pricing is usually based on size, detail, how much color - or time and how much color. An artist with a good rep will charge more.

If it is a costume design the artists will usually charge a $25 to $50 deposit so he can work on the design and not be cheated if you never return. If you do return the deposit is usually subtracted from bill.

An artist will sometimes cut a break to a regular or if you are pleasant. Tips are usually HIGHLY encouraged.

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7- How long does it take to heal?  What steps did you need to take?  How long before it was all right to expose it to sunlight?  To wear normal clothes over it again?  Before the artist could work on it some more?

People heal differently. Usually right after tat there is a light covering for a few hours to soak up blood. Advice on healing depends on tat artist but the following is reasonable.

After a couple hours remove covering. Pat down with hands and tepid water, mild pure soap. Pat dry.  Do not rub!! Apply a thin coating of a lotion like A&D or a product like Tattoo Goo. Too thick will not allow healing.

Depending on the person sometimes scabbing will occur - no picking and it will itch like crazy for most people. It might look and feel to the touch like an applique on a shirt. (Clothing should be loose and nothing that rubs) Over times the scabbing will fall off and tada!

For the itching you cannot scratch but you can give it a little slap which helps.

No sun while healing and after use a good sunscreen. There is advice on healing all over the web or you can go to a tat discussion board for more details.


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8- What kind of tattoo heals the most quickly?  Takes the longest to heal?

Depends on details, colors, individual reactions. 3 weeks is usually sufficient.

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   9- If you did have to wear clothes over it, how did you protect the tat?  (I'm guessing at a large gauze pad and medical tape.  How close am I?)

Needs to breathe - after the first few hours most artists want no covering. Just keep the clothing loose.

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10- Based on your experience, what kind of tattoo would you recommend for a (female) beginner, and where?  How long would it take, and how much would it cost?

LOL, most artists I have talked to think women handle pain better so you got me on this one! Tell me what you envision ... and I will see what I would figure it to be.

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11- What parts of the body are considered off-limits?  Are there areas that an artist would charge extra, because of the potential danger?

This one I do not know - would guess most artists would not do face unless they really thought the person knew what they were doing.

That reminds me - most artists will not do people who have been drinking - not just because of judgement issues but the alcohol hins blood and tat sometimes will not take as well. Same with pain killers that thin blood - aspirin, ibuprofen.

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12- Can you share some terminology, or slang, or a particular experience that you think would help the story?  Can you think of anything I forgot to ask?

Getting a tattoo is getting inked and tattoos are called tats or ink. The designs on the wall are called flash. The person doing it is an artist.  Er, going blank beyond that.

Here is my fave place. Check out the work of Tom Renshaw! www.eskustoms.com A guy like Renshaw is a legend and can charge like $250 per hour.  Tony Eterno did one of my tats and charged $50 an hour - did a great job.


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A warm thank-you, in advance, for any help that you're able to provide.

--Mike

No problem! Good luck. This is an easy topic to research and there is ample info so try googling this too!
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2004, 11:24:54 PM »

This place seems to have images and people's stories for various body modifications, including a tattoo section. Beware of going into other sections with modifications that are too extreme for your tastes.

http://www.bmezine.com/
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2004, 11:26:57 PM »

Thank you for giving me a good starting point, Michelle.  I appreciate the details you were able to provide, and I've already checked out your link.  (My favorite art on the site was by Jimé Litwalk--at least, I think that's his name.)  The advice on tipping, for instance, would never have occurred to me on my own.

I just want to get an idea what kind of experience would await a woman who was doing this for the first time, on a lark.  Most of the details that I'm asking for probably won't make it into the story.  But I want it clear in my mind what would happen to her--then, and afterward.

And I don't want to sound like a noob myself.  ("That ef'n idiot thinks he can find a reputable artist to do a tribal across the lower back in three colors, in under an hour, for under $100?  Boy, Blitzed is the right word for him!  Pfft; I ain't reading any more of this crap!")

So I'm still looking to fill the gaps in my knowledge.

--Mike
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2004, 11:38:06 PM »

This place seems to have images and people's stories for various body modifications, including a tattoo section. Beware of going into other sections with modifications that are too extreme for your tastes.

http://www.bmezine.com/

Thanks very much for the link, Es.  Just in a quick search of the site, I found half a dozen "First tattoo" stories!

Reading, now....
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2004, 11:40:42 PM »

...  Am I the only one (other than Born Blitzed, apparently) that things that a girl being MCed into getting A Tattoo is a rather hot idea? Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2004, 11:42:38 PM »



I just want to get an idea what kind of experience would await a woman who was doing this for the first time, on a lark.  Most of the details that I'm asking for probably won't make it into the story.  But I want it clear in my mind what would happen to her--then, and afterward.

--Mike

If an artist is reputable and really gets the idea she has not given it thought he might refuse to do it. Depends on her demeanor.
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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2004, 11:43:56 PM »

...  Am I the only one (other than Born Blitzed, apparently) that things that a girl being MCed into getting A Tattoo is a rather hot idea? Tongue

LOL, not at all. Recurring fantasy for me AND is in one of the stories I am writing - not a big plot point but it is there. Always meant to write a story that centered around it.
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2004, 11:58:02 PM »

...  Am I the only one (other than Born Blitzed, apparently) that things that a girl being MCed into getting A Tattoo is a rather hot idea? Tongue

LOL, not at all. Recurring fantasy for me AND is in one of the stories I am writing - not a big plot point but it is there. Always meant to write a story that centered around it.

Everyone, I'd like to introduce my personal assistant, Ms. Michelle LovesTo.  She answers the phone, opens my mail. . . .

. . . even answers my posts for me!

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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2004, 11:58:56 PM »

Hm.  Question.  Did they ever figure out a way to make metalic colored tattoos?  I know there was a patent out there for using electrolytes to "gold plate" the skin, but the way it works is the gold goes under the layer of skin that tattoo ink lays at and is rather quickly absorbed by the bloodstream.

(Patent here.)
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2004, 12:00:26 AM »

...  Am I the only one (other than Born Blitzed, apparently) that things that a girl being MCed into getting A Tattoo is a rather hot idea? Tongue

LOL, not at all. Recurring fantasy for me AND is in one of the stories I am writing - not a big plot point but it is there. Always meant to write a story that centered around it.

Everyone, I'd like to introduce my personal assistant, Ms. Michelle LovesTo.  She answers the phone, opens my mail. . . .

. . . even answers my posts for me!

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The post was not directed at you - read it again - so this was really just an excuse for another post from you!
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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2004, 12:01:50 AM »

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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2004, 12:18:43 AM »

Darn,BB


I never got to brag of my 5 tattoos I have collected. oh well I am not really depressed. It was a cheap way to gain a post. Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2004, 12:22:48 AM »

Darn,BB


I never got to brag of my 5 tattoos I have collected. oh well I am not really depressed. It was a cheap way to gain a post. Smiley

Well, gain another one, Twisted.

Answer my original post in this thread.  Go in to as much detail as you'd like.  I'd appreciate it.
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« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2004, 08:08:41 AM »

My tattoo was designed myself but fairly simple - an F clef and a yin-yang (I am a musician and was heavily into kajukenbo at the time).  It took a little over an hour.

My wife's first one was considerably more complex and took about 3 hours, if I recall.  It's about 7 inches high and about 4 inches across, if you were to draw a box around it, and featured a lot of color shading and the like.  They were amazed that a person would sit that long for a 1st tat; usually, 1st timers wanting something that complicated would get it outlined and partially colord in one sitting and return for another sitting.  (This is especially true of tattoos over parts of the body that don't have much pading, like the middle of the chest, the wrist, etc.)

The buzz can be loud or barely audible, depending on the gun used.  It feels like a constant string of mosquito bites - not too bad, but you definately know it's there.  Proper healing takes a few weeks.
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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2004, 04:00:55 PM »

Anyone know anything about Tattoo Removal?  I ask because if I were to use a tattoo in a story, I'd love to be able to have the villan/villaness realistically taunt the hapless heroine about how easy/hard it will be able to get rid of later.

Closest I've found is here, but it doesn't have all the info I need. Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2004, 04:04:42 PM »

Hm, found a little more here.


There are several methods for "removing" a tattoo, listed below. However
with all of these methods, you either still end up with a tattoo (albeit
a better-looking one), a scar, or a skinnier wallet. In other words, it
is much easier to *get* a tattoo in the first place than to get rid of
one. If you are considering getting a new tattoo, think carefully before
you do--or you may end up re-reading this section.

*IMPORTANT*  Most health insurance companies do not cover tattoo removal
in their coverage. The removal of a small tattoo (2-inch square) could
end up costing you over $1,000--and there are "hidden costs" to the
concept of tattoo removal.
The bottom line is, TATTOO REMOVAL IS VERY
EXPENSIVE. This means that it is extra-important for you to consider
CAREFULLY and spend a long time considering getting one in the first
place.


The impression I get is, that a victim of a MC prank involving tattoos, especially large ones, would be looking at several hundred thousand dollars and several years of work to get rid of it -- and even then, they'd probably be left with scars where the tattoos were, along with (probably) faint tattoo remnants.
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« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2004, 07:47:30 AM »

There are stories on the EMCSA involving someone being given a tat of the Japanese kanji for "slave," or a nipple/clit ring with that symbol engraved on it.  So, does anybody actually know what this looks like, and/or is willing to find us a JPG of it?
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« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2004, 07:59:17 AM »

There are stories on the EMCSA involving someone being given a tat of the Japanese kanji for "slave," or a nipple/clit ring with that symbol engraved on it.  So, does anybody actually know what this looks like, and/or is willing to find us a JPG of it?



http://www.violently.com/pg8/tatguide/lifestyle/slave.html
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« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2004, 11:50:20 AM »

Also brings up another question.  If a tattoo artist doesn't have to worry about their customer's comfort at all, just how fast could they do a single color tattoo?

I mean, if a person's MCed to get a tattoo, they could be just as easily MCed to ignore any pain or whatnot.
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« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2004, 11:53:36 AM »

Also brings up another question.  If a tattoo artist doesn't have to worry about their customer's comfort at all, just how fast could they do a single color tattoo?

I mean, if a person's MCed to get a tattoo, they could be just as easily MCed to ignore any pain or whatnot.

I think for me, and even if I was reading a story, the turn-on would bea combo of the pain and the permanency.
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« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2004, 12:03:59 PM »

I think for me, and even if I was reading a story, the turn-on would bea combo of the pain and the permanency.

Well, the idea I had was to use it in one of my DAISY Chain stories, so the girl would just be acting like she was ignoring the pain.

Specifically, I was wondering how long it would take for Tiger stripes pretty much up and down the entire body -- Nothing fancy, just solid black stripes -- if the artist didn't have to worry about the girl's comfort at all.
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« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2004, 12:07:14 PM »

I think for me, and even if I was reading a story, the turn-on would bea combo of the pain and the permanency.

Well, the idea I had was to use it in one of my DAISY Chain stories, so the girl would just be acting like she was ignoring the pain.

Specifically, I was wondering how long it would take for Tiger stripes pretty much up and down the entire body -- Nothing fancy, just solid black stripes -- if the artist didn't have to worry about the girl's comfort at all.

That is interesting. Would think it would just be a massive trauma to immune system.
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« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2004, 12:22:41 PM »

That is interesting. Would think it would just be a massive trauma to immune system.

Oh?
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« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2004, 12:27:22 PM »

That is interesting. Would think it would just be a massive trauma to immune system.

Oh?

Basically whenever your skin is penetrated your body goes into overdrive to fix it - to produce white blood cells and form a line of defense. Doctors know think that a lot of health problems go back to the natural inflammation that occurs when the body does this - to have your skin pierced to that degree all at once ...
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