Amy Allen Hypno style pics and upcoming hypno shoot. (Noes! Failure!)

[Lex]

I had a photoshoot with this lady at the weekend, we did some trick photography, some doll / mannequin fetish work and a bit of simulated hypnosis.


Can't look away.

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs31/f/2008/189/e/5/Can__t_look_away_by_rembrandt_jones.jpg
There's a larger version here

http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs32/f/2008/190/9/f/Amy_Awaiting_Orders_by_rembrandt_jones.jpg
Nude and awaiting orders (NSFW)

She's interested in doing a real hypnosis video with me. We've got it booked for next Thursday (17th July)

Here's the current list of suggestions we'll be doing. Does anyone else have any ideas, requests, or interesting ways of tweaking old suggestions? She's happy working up to nude, but isn't keen on doing any overly sexual / adult suggestions (hypnotic arousal for example).

BlankSerena (if anyone knows of her Yahoo360 blog) has already requested that I have Amy wear some nice satin gloves at one point (I'll probably get her in some nice elbow length ones while she's in "dominant" mode.) :

Forget being hypnotized 1: Thinks it's all rubbish and don't believe it could work.
Forget being hypnotized 2: Forgets being hypnotized, but is *really* keen to try it.
Forget your name: Think it's something else instead, Princess Peach, Darth Vader, etc.
Hypno-bondage: Bound in place without ropes.
Hypno-gagged: Unable to speak.
Mouth Stuck Shut: Try to get her mouth open and find that she can't.
More Stuck: Her feet to the floor, her bum to a chair.
Mute: Try to talk but no sound comes out.
Mime: (another request): She communicates entirely through mime(!)
Hypno Freeze: Freeze in place like a statue.
Self Freeze: Freeze whenever she says "Um"
Slow Freeze: Feet freeze in place, the rest of her can move (at first) but then the freeze works it's way up her body till she's totally frozen.
Strip Tease: Begin to dance and undress on a trigger.
Nudity is natural: Realises clothes are unnecessary and asks if it's ok to undress.
Slow Motion: Move in Slow Motion.
Hypno-Flash: Flashes her breasts whenever she hears the word "Flash"
Hypno-strip: Removes an item of clothing whenever she hears a trigger.
Sex Doll: Pose like a sextoy whenever she hears a trigger word.
Fembot: Move and speak robotically.
Autopose 1000: Strike a new pose on hearing a trigger word then freeze in place.
Mindless Mantra: (cheesy, but it looks hot on film) "I am a slavegirl, I love to obey"
Hypno drunk: The more of a glass of water you drink, the more drunk you feel.
Hypno bimbo: Become ditzy, giggly, girly and dumb.
Dominatrix: Become dominant, seductive, commanding the viewers / anyone in the room.
Stepford Wife: Become a submissive simpering eager to please trophy wife.
Hypno Puppy / Kitten: Behave like a puppy or kitten.
Miss UK / Playboy model: Switch from wholesome pretty poses to raunchy ones and back.
Hypno Blank: Mind empties of all thoughts.
Liar Liar: Absolutely unable to tell the truth, concocts stories constantly.
Speaking Chinese: (Or Martian.) Speaks gobbledeegook but believe that it's normal.
Hypno-Tickling: Feeling herself being tickled whenever she hears a trigger.
Fall in love with your reflection: Get enchanted by the mirror.
You become the hypnotist: And put the viewers under, making them your slaves!
Hypnotist backfires: She tries to hypnotize the viewers but puts herself under.

[angelus27]

Let her be the hypnotist, but everything she suggests happens to herself

and

Let her don´t want to be hypnotized, but cannot look away from the pendant

[hypno_addict]

Stealth hypnosis can be fun as well, or at least the appearence of...

[angelus27]

Ah, and please...
when you make her drunk, a bimbo or a Stepford wife...
make it step by step...the slower, the more confused she will get 

[Devious_Bastard]

I'm very intrigued!
Keep us updated. =D

(Also, nice work on all that stuff in your DevArt account. Very nice.)

[rqeuk]

I have 2 requests: one pretty simple and the other more complicated.

My simple request is for a pendant induction or an eye-fixation on the camera induction where Amy's asked to try to keep her eyes open as long as possible.  I love a lady slowly succumbing to sleepiness, the slower and the more she fights it, the better.

My more complicated request would be to suggest to Amy that she become not just unaware of the fact she's been hypnotized and is following post-hypnotic triggers, but for her to become so blissfully unaware that she's actually apologetic about following the triggers. For example, if you put her to sleep with a trigger and then wake her up, I'd love to have her first reaction be "Oh, I'm sorry.  Did I fall asleep?" (My preference would be for Amy to say this a sweet-happy-but-still-kinda-sleepy voice... but if you elicit or if she naturally reacts as highly embarrassed or confused, that'd be highly swell too.)  As another example---assuming Amy's comfortable with some degree of undressing/flashing [and judging from that nude pic on DeviantART, she is ]---would be for her react to obeying an undressing/flashing trigger by saying "Oh, I'm sorry.  I forgot you were here.  For some reason I thought I was at home alone."  (Again, my personal preference is for her attitude to be sweet, innocent, and dazed.  But Amy ends up highly embarrassed or agitatedly confused, that'd be swell as well.)

In any case, thanks for taking suggestions whether you take mine or not.  And thanks for making fabulous fetish videos.  I own the Lexi and Emily videos and love them.  [Yes, I'm partial to voluptuous women... but I'm hardly going to hold that against Ms. Allen ]

[elius]

"Slow robot" - when triggered, slowly and gradually changes into a robot without realizing she is becoming stiffer and more monotone.  Could alternately be a marionette/puppet or wind-up doll.

"Slow pose" - when triggered, body is not only freezing in place like a statue, but a statue of a specific predetermined pose.  My favorites would be arms straight ahead zombie sleepwalker style (would be nice to see this combined with the gloves, and maybe throw in some stockings and heels to boot) or at attention.

Also, give her a trigger that when awake, and is triggered, she will go blank and repeat a phrase (some suggestions: I am in a trance, I've been hypnotized, I will obey (I don't find that stuff cheesy at all ) and then go right on as if nothing happened.  The previous recommendation to have herself saying "um" or something else she commonly says would be good with this; it'd be cool to see her self-trigger to do something like this.

[radamanthys123]

I agree with rqeuk. A pendant induction or eye fixation induction is one of the things I like the most and she should try to fight the sleepiness to make it better.

[rqeuk]

Oooh, one more suggestion: it's great when one not only sees a woman slowly succumb to trance despite fighting it as hard as she can, but also hears her succumb.  Perhaps Amy could say "I must stay awake though the pendant makes me so sleepy," or something like that over and over again as she stairs at a pendant and slowly succumbs.

Thanks again Lex for opening the floor for suggestions!

[Ben Horne]

From years of visiting this board and looking around for other outlets for the hypnofetish community, I've learned that a large majority of people seem to really enjoy a pouty, defiant girl with posthypnotic amnesia denying she's been hypnotized. I actually prefer the extremely rare example of a girl with posthypnotic amnesia who actually knows she's been hypnotized but can't remember a damn thing about it. Maybe some stuff from the very beginning of the induction but nothing after closing her eyes or after a certain amount of time into it. I love the look of realization of a certain power the hypnotist has over her, especially erotic if she wakes up naked and doesn't remember stripping, and the hypnotist isn't someone she generally allows to see her naked. She's maybe a little scared, a little shy, but also in awe of the hypnotist's power. I may be way in the minority - the vast majority of people seem to prefer complete amnesia of a trance ever even occuring. But for whatever my two cents are worth, I'd love to see more of the latter.

Ben Horne

[lifmcs]

...Also, give her a trigger that when awake, and is triggered, she will go blank and repeat a phrase (some suggestions: I am in a trance, I've been hypnotized, I will obey (I don't find that stuff cheesy at all ) and then go right on as if nothing happened.  The previous recommendation to have herself saying "um" or something else she commonly says would be good with this; it'd be cool to see her self-trigger to do something like this.

Totally, especially the last part.

...It may be harder to do the setups and follow the action with the camera, but I think we don't see enough posthypnotic behaviors/compelled actions. As a nod to the modern age, how about some cell phone enslavement--put a little Bluetooth headset on the subject, conditioned to follow whatever suggestions/commands she gets via the earpiece, but otherwise awake/normal. One twist could be total unawareness of the headset, another could be awareness but inability to resist or remove the headset.

Or set up a bunch of stored text messages in advance and send them to the subject, similarly compelled to carry out the suggested actions. Heck, we've all done it with IMs, why not a cell phone?

Lucky made these suggestions in TiB's "Welcome back" thread a while ago.  I liked them then, and I still like them now.  My twist on it would be (somewhat dependent on your ability to edit it together at the end) to have Liz controlling Amy as you interact with her more directly. If you go the text route, subtitles could be put on final video showing what the commands were.

Better yet though, if you have access to a headset, Liz could be off out of Amy's sight quietly whispering commands into another phone (obviously Liz would have to be able to observe the action at the time though).  Then somehow record her audio and dub it over the actual video.  If you're feeling crafty, run it through some audio filter to give it a slightly haunting, possibly echoy effect.

And you ask why not just have Liz right there, albeit speaking commands through the phone?  Because it would "just be hotter" my way (probably...).  Sure, you could suggest to the subject that, "There is no Liz," and it would work.  However you did ask for suggestions, and I would be amiss in not presenting the whole shebang.

As for being aware of the control or not, I vote aware and somewhat nc, as it does seem kinda rare in the videos out there.

[lifmcs]

"One more thing."

Something that needs be done more (Edit: and this goes for all purveyors of hypnosis videos) is post-session interviews.  Sometimes we'll get the "How as it?" and in response, "It was interesting," or "That was different," but that's about .06% better than nothing at all.  For general reference, it's totally cool to include this before a *wink wink* we're going to have more fun now *nod nod* ending, as long as it's included and doesn't suck.

Ideally, I would like to hear detailed descriptions of what was going through their head at various interesting points during the session. Sadly, the ability to elicit such a description is, like everything else, subject dependent.  But hey, if it isn't that great it doesn't have to be included in the final cut.

[Lex]

OK, so I'm really liking some of these ideas, I'll try incorporate what I can into the shoot.

"Remote Control" is an idea that's appealed to me (and the fembot-fetishist inside me) for a *long* time. When I was a kid there was an episode of an Aussie TV show called "Round the Twist" where a bolt of lightning hit a video remote, supercharging it so that it could be used on people. One of the first times it was used, was when the kids in the show "paused" the sister character, Linda, basically turning her into a statue (which they accidentally knocked over) The pose wasn't exciting or sexy or anything, she was just looking down at the remote, but she held it so perfectly that it really did make you think that she'd been switched off for a time. They could use the remote for other things too: Repeat, Rewind, Fast Forward. Pausing was definitely the main attraction though. Seeing Linda frozen did strange and interesting things to my then 8 year old brain.

Anyway. My phone's got an mp3 player built in, and a fairly loud speaker. If I record a bunch of voice command MP3s, and buy a bluetooth headset, I should be able to send the MP3s straight to the headset. I can hypnotize Amy not to notice that it's plugged in, then activate commands throughout the session.

This kind of has me wondering though, is an audible trigger that the viewers can't hear going to look any good? Would I be better off just using my phone's speaker without using the headset to trigger her? Should I just chat with Amy normally and let Liz go crazy with the bluetooth triggers off camera without my knowing what she's doing? (So that both Amy and I will be taken by surprise) I've also recorded a big bunch of sound effects that could trigger different reactions. (Barking = She becomes a puppy. Whirring machinery = She becomes a robot. Tibetan Meditation Bell = Her mind goes blank)

What would people rather hear from me? Normal commands? Sound effects that Amy's been programmed to respond to? Or would it be hotter to see her in the headset, responding to commands that the viewers can't hear. (Though I could add subtitles afterwards indicating what button's being pressed perhaps?)

Does anyone have any ideas how I can film it to make it obvious she's being remote controlled and not just acting? Should I have her speak "command recived" outloud or something similar? Blindfold her? Have her go out into the garden and trigger her through a window? ;o)

Here's a few ideas that I've had so far. I don't want to retread too much old ground though, so if anyone else has ideas or suggestions, they're very welcome. Keep them fun and enjoyable. She's happy getting nude, and the suggestions can be sexy but not sexual. (So no hypnotic orgasms or masturbation suggestions!)

Enter Robot mode / Amy Mode / Sex Doll Mode / Bimbo Mode / Nympho Mode
Strike a new Pose
1 pace forwards / backwards / left / right
Turn left / right
Stand to attention
Freeze / Move
Stand up / Sit down
Kneel / Stand
Remove an item of clothing


Hypnotizing her reflection.


Entranced by her own reflection.


Frozen mannequin. 


A discarded doll.


She's looking forward to being the hypnotist too.

[Lucky]

I think it's hotter for her to have an earpiece or headset. It's more work for you, but but I would just dub in replicas of the commands later on the video editor's second audio track.

I don't know whether she's the right model/subject for it, but it would be interesting to have her interacting with another person while being controlled by the headset, where, by turns, she finds the person, boring and dull, interesting, sexy, gotta-have-you attractive.

I find giving people suggestions and letting them run with it more interesting than strict sit-stand-bend robo-doll mode. She would think she's normal and conscious, acting of her own free will, but each command from the headset would change her behavior and the dynamic of her interactions.

Having someone actually on the phone with her, giving her commands/suggestions would allow for the most interaction and creativity. She could be conditioned to ignore that person if he/she were in the next room, whispering into a phone.

[Darkside007]

I like Lucky's idea too. Why not make this a bluetooth special? xD

But why not have her talk to you, and have Liz (or Briony ) do some direct body control while she tries to explain it away?

[Aleolus]

I quite like the 'Casual Player', where they are naked only from the waist down, and are acting perfectly normally, going about their normal routine, all while playing with themselves.  They can be aware of it or not, but if they are aware of it, they think no one is noticing or paying attention to it.

[Lex]

I quite like the 'Casual Player', where they are naked only from the waist down, and are acting perfectly normally, going about their normal routine, all while playing with themselves.  They can be aware of it or not, but if they are aware of it, they think no one is noticing or paying attention to it.

I like the casual player idea too Aleolus, but not for this video. I already said: "Keep them [the suggestions] fun and enjoyable. She's happy getting nude, and the suggestions can be sexy but not sexual. (So no hypnotic orgasms or masturbation suggestions!)"

She's happy to do some more fetish based suggestions, I know she's starred on the restrained elegance website. But she's not got much interest in behaving like a pornstar Still, thanks for the interest

On the bluetooth headset front, it turns out bluetooth headsets don't let you play MP3s to them (something to do with the encoding) I'd have to buy some bluetooth stereo headphones. (Which are pretty expensive and tricky to come by) I'll see if I can find anything that fits our purpose though.

[Cpt_Pugwash]

She's happy to do some more fetish based suggestions, I know she's starred on the restrained elegance website. But she's not got much interest in behaving like a pornstar

Ah, but that's only before the post-hypnotic commands are placed 

On the bluetooth headset front, it turns out bluetooth headsets don't let you play MP3s to them (something to do with the encoding) I'd have to buy some bluetooth stereo headphones. (Which are pretty expensive and tricky to come by) I'll see if I can find anything that fits our purpose though.

What about these ? Cheapish, fun and could do the job ? Just download the MP3s you want into the sunglasses and sit back and enjoy. Looking at the pics, it could be possible to remove the sunglasses and attach the speaker units onto a hairband for them to be more innocuous ?? Only downside I can see is no remote control so limited interaction with the play order.

[Lex]

Heh, they look pretty good Pugwash, yeah. No remote though, so they'd be better for brainwashing / MP3 listening purposes than in giving commands remotely.

I'll probably just end up setting her up with sound-cue triggers and use my mobile phone to trigger her.

[Hypnologic]

What about these ? Cheapish, fun and could do the job ? Just download the MP3s you want into the sunglasses and sit back and enjoy. Looking at the pics, it could be possible to remove the sunglasses and attach the speaker units onto a hairband for them to be more innocuous ?? Only downside I can see is no remote control so limited interaction with the play order.

oakley has/had some just like that.  the lenses are not removable, they flip up.  looks completely retarded.  (on a side note i think dog the bounty hunter wears a pair.)  the mp3s are played in the order they are downloaded.  they have excellent sound quality though.

[Lex]

I actually found a really cool looking pair of wireless bluetooth headphones. They're the most expensive headphones I've ever bought, (They're Philips SHB6100, and I've just realised I could have paid less than half for them if I'd gone through Amazon... still, I wouldn't have been able to test them that way, or get hold of them in time for the shoot on thursday) Hopefully they'll see a lot of use though. I've got a bunch of sci-fi / hypno related ideas that should be worth exploring.

> I could use them in the shoot for playing a nice brainwashing mantra to a girl in a robotic trance, the mp3 speaks a line, the girl echoes it back.
> I could use them for remote controlling a girl in one of my shoots.
> Even if I don't get to use it in a shoot, I can still use it to zap Lizzy... if she can be persuaded to wear them.
> Or you know... use them as headphones for listening to music. (Though I'll admit, that idea is kind of out there)

[Lex]

Gah (failure! ... more or less)

Though Amy believes in hypnosis and really wanted to try it out, I wasn't able to get her into a deep enough trance to be happy with how the shoot went. Consequently we stopped early before we'd gone very far at all as I was just spending the whole time doing induction and deepener after induction. The suggestions that I did do with her she'd play along with (a good sign of light trance) but she was so concerned about it not working, that I think that prevented her from going deep.

Part of the problem was that she was "watching" everything that was happening the whole time and worrying that it wasn't going to work. (Which is never a good thing) Also when I tried to assess her depth once she was under, she told me what she thought I wanted to hear, rather than what was true. (So when I had her forget a number, she acted for a time like that's what had happened, on waking though, she was totally back to normal.) She also admitted she really wanted to see me doing it to someone else (I actually ended up hypnotizing her boyfriend for a while, got him to be unable to tell me what his name was for a short while, but he didn't go all that deep either)

Liz wasn't with us this time, (she was at work and couldn't get out of it) Maybe having my lucky charm around would have changed things. (As she and Amy both have this bratty independent streak, and both girls had trouble going deep into hypnosis initially, worrying that they were just playing along) In the past, Liz has gone to one side with the model explaining what to expect from the subjects point of view at early stages of the trance. (Amy had seen me zapping Liz in the past when we had our photo session, seeing Liz going instantly from wide awake and sparky, to mindless and obedient, to a barking playful puppy, I think she was hoping she'd feel just like that, and find herself irresistably controlled within the first 5 minutes.)

I did try pointing out that to begin with, a light trance *would* just feel like playing along, and that she should carry on and not let it get to her, but it reached the point where she was focusing on the fact that it wasn't working so much that I didn't feel she was under any form of hypnosis at all.

Amy's a good little actress, so we could have acted (ok faked) the whole thing pretty happily, but going from "We're doing a real hypnosis session" to "We're going to fake a hypnosis session" would have felt like too much of a compromise to me. Maybe if people are okay with "simulated hypnosis" in the context of a real hypnosis session we'll do that in future, but I wanted to check with you guys (The MC Community) first. Would you want to see a genuine looking session if you knew it wasn't really genuine? Or would you *only* want the real thing?

I'm thinking of sending her an MP3 to work on her depth first though. (As we hope in future to have a real good *genuine* hypnosis session) If anyone has any advice / scripts / mp3s that would help me prepare tricky models like this, they'd be very welcome.

I have footage of a big long induction leading to *very* weak floating hands (her fingers get twitchy and raise a little, that's about it though) /// Unable to stop herself from lying /// Modeling style switch between Miss UK (wholesome and cute) and Playboy (raunchy and hot) /// Gazing into a hypno spiral, finding her eyes get heavier and sleepier.

[Lucky]

Sorry to hear it didn't go as planned, Lex. Sometimes expectation works in your favor with a subject; sometimes it works against you when they don't feel the big "Shazam!".

If you decide to have another go, you might want to try a confusion induction or a surprise/instant induction to get past her "watcher." Or see if you can dissociate her to the point where her watcher observes, but is helpless to interfere as her other self goes into hypnosis and follows your suggestions. Another thought--build a yes set out of convincers that use waking suggestion and light hypnosis--stiff arm, clasped hands, magnetic fingers, etc.--to build a successively deeper trance and an expectation that each will work better than the last. I've found this beneficial if she's more tactile/kinetic than a visualizer.

Fractionation and compounding may also be useful.

She's a tasty little crumpet; I hope we'll see more of her.

[polo]

one thing for sure: she looks hot 

my suggestion if she finally goes in: a certain song will make her want to dance for the camera.  the more the song goes on, the more sexy and excited she feels.  but, also, she feels dumber and dumber.  how bimbofied and horny she finally turns will be left to her own unconscious will.

I also like when they repeat phrases like "I want to be hypnotized" or "I am under your control" and tranceing on that, repeating on and on.

basically, anything that makes them look dumber than us    would be great if she starts dressed as a bratty executive (tailleur, conservative poses, etc.) and through hypnosis you make her feel looser and looser (and dumber and sexier) without her being aware of it, and keeping enough of the executive look to remind us what she was before we started playing with her mind 

good luck!

[Lex]

Thanks for the advice Lucky, I'm also going to try letting Liz have a go at hypnotizing Amy.

Liz is pretty sure that Amy's almost exactly the same kind of subject that she (Liz) is. (Curious to see other people hypnotized, kinda wants it to work on herself, would like the idea of being hit with a big "Shazam" to prove to her that it's undeniably working, worried that she won't go as deep as she wants to, concerned that she's just playing along with it rather than *actually* under, distracted by thinking about the things she's worried about will get in the way of her going under, etc)

As a result, Liz is pretty sure that she'll be able to anticipate all Amy's thoughts concerns and worries to the extent that she can easily put the zappy on her without Amy getting all distracted and thoughty again.